Joseph Smith was martyred on this date

On this date, June 27, 1844, Joseph Smith was killed in Carthage Jail, Carthage Illinois by members of a mob who stormed the jail.

I cannot give to words how much this man has given me. I understand how controvercial this imperfect, flawed human is, but he has let me know some of the greatest people, greatest doctrines and greatest vistas I have ever encountered or ever hope to encounter. He has opened up the atonement to me, and I am very, very grateful for that.

I remember looking up at the Christus statue at Temple Square in Salt Lake City thinking how much I have come to love the Savior. I remember two years ago standing on the campus of BYU so thankful that I could have spent some time there. It opened my eyes and my heart, the short time there. It convinced me to serve a mission, two of my most miserable years of my life, but it gave me a language, German, that I studied when I came back to BYU. In German class I met my future bride. I received my first job from a reference by LDS Employment Services. LDS Family Services employed my wife and facilitated the adoptions of my three children. Indirectly, or directly if you consider it, this man has given me the greatest joys of my life, and I cannot express enough how thankful I am to have known him, if only about reading about his life and actions.

 

http://www.josephsmith.lds.org/josephsmith/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=041579179acbff00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD

Those Mormons are at it again

It looks like the LDS church, which I understand is not really what the church wants itself to be called, has put out some official requests that people stop using the term "Fundimentalist Mormons". What I found amusing is that the church has the legal rights to the name "Mormons".

Deseret News | LDS Church addresses FLDS confusion

While the church might have a beef with "Fundimentalist Mormons" or "LDS Church", I personally am really tired of the media usage of "The Church of the Latter-Day Saints". The real name is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints". It bears the name of the Savior and I wish that the media would get over it's dislike of the name or whatever it is that makes them uncomfortable with the real name.

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LDS Church addresses FLDS confusion Leaders hope letters, videos will further clarify differences By Carrie A. Moore Deseret News Published: June 27, 2008 As confusion continues worldwide about the connection between the Salt Lake-based LDS Church and the FLDS polygamist group in Texas, LDS officials ramped up their efforts Thursday to clarify that their members have nothing to do with plural marriage. The frustration that LDS leaders are feeling over the confusion also was detailed in a letter to more than 80 major media outlets nationwide from the church's attorney, and in a public statement from one of its apostles — also an attorney — about the importance of protecting the church's identity. The two documents were part of a package of videos and statements of clarification posted on the church's Web site at www.lds.org in the "newsroom" section. The letter reminds editors and publishers that the LDS Church has obtained legal registration, trade and service marks for the term "Mormon," among other terms, and asks journalists to refrain from calling the FLDS polygamous group "fundamentalist Mormons." But at least one religion scholar said trying to enforce such a distinction could be problematic. "We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above," says the letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, who is identified as the church's "general counsel." He asked that the letter be given to reporters and editors "and to your legal counsel," the letter said. Distinguishing the 13 million-member Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from the few thousand members of the Fundamentalist LDS Church in both Texas and the Utah-Arizona border towns of Hildale and Colorado City has proven to be an ongoing challenge for the LDS Church, which has issued at least three other public statements distancing itself from the FLDS group in recent months. The latest push for clarification comes after an LDS Church-commissioned survey of 1,000 U.S. adults last month, which showed 36 percent of those surveyed thought the FLDS polygamous group was part of the LDS Church, and 29 percent said they were not sure. Less than a third believe the two groups are not connected at all, and 30 percent believe polygamists belong to the LDS Church. Of 15,000 news stories on the Texas FLDS group between the end of March and mid-June, the LDS Church said only 5 percent "accurately distinguished" the differences between the Texas group and Latter-day Saints. The survey seeking to determine how widespread public confusion between Latter-day Saints and the FLDS Church shows, according to the LDS Church statement, that: • More than a third of those surveyed (36 percent) erroneously thought that the Texas compound was part of the LDS Church. • 6 percent said the two groups were partly related. • 29 percent correctly said the two groups were not connected at all. • 29 percent were not sure. Still, asking media to refrain from using the term "Mormon fundamentalist" could be problematic for the church, according to Jan Shipps, professor emeritus of history and religious studies at Indiana University-Purdue University, who has long researched the LDS Church. "There's a difference in tradition and in legal terms," she said. "They may have a legal claim to the word 'Mormon,' but the fact is that Mormonism is a tradition, and a legal claim cannot take away from other Mormon churches — of which there are many — calling themselves Mormon. It simply cannot do it." Shipps points to an active group of "restoration churches" that broke away from the main body of the LDS Church in the 19th century, including The Church of Christ Temple Lot in Independence, Mo.; The Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerites); The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonites); the Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints; and the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, in addition to the Community of Christ (formerly the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) as groups that fall within the "Mormon" tradition. "Mormonism is a new religious tradition, not just the LDS Church," she said. "There are lots of forms of Mormonism. The LDS Church does not own the name of the tradition. It owns the name of its church." The analogy is that no one church owns the label "Christian," she said, though many Christian churches have tried to define Latter-day Saints as non-Christians — something LDS leaders have rejected. The battle over who has the right to be called by what term has long roots within the LDS faith, she said. "All through the 19th century, the LDS Church headquartered in Salt Lake City was arguing in the press with the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints headquartered in Independence, Mo. "There were long articles in periodicals written by the prophet of the RLDS Church and by the prophet of the LDS Church arguing about who was the legitimate church to come out of the Mormon movement." Shipps said she's sympathetic to the latest incarnation of that discussion. "The LDS Church is trying to protect itself — and I understand what they're dealing with, because it's terrible that people think this (polygamy) is what's going on in the Utah church, but on the other hand, when something is a tradition, it's just a tradition." Other efforts by the LDS Church seeking to clarify its identity include several new video interviews on the church Web site, including former Brigham Young University and Houston Oilers quarterback Gifford Nielsen, a director of community theater, an orthopedic surgeon, a justice of the peace, Texas news anchor Tracy Kennick, and a young woman with aspirations for medical school. All of those featured live in Texas, and the young people talk about growing up there as Latter-day Saints, as another way of distinguishing LDS members from the polygamous group in Eldorado. Elder Quentin L. Cook, an LDS apostle, said in a statement on the Web site that the results of the church's survey confirm what church leaders and members in Texas and elsewhere are seeing with respect to the confusion. "We'd much rather be talking about who we are than who we aren't," Elder Cook said. "While many news reporters have been careful to distinguish between our church and this small Texas group, a lot of confusion still remains." "People have the right to worship as they choose, and we aren't interested in attacking someone else's beliefs," Elder Cook said. "At the same time, we have an obligation to define ourselves rather than be defined by events and incidents that have nothing to do with us. It's obvious we need to do more to help people understand the enormous differences that exist between our church, which is a global faith, and these small polygamous groups." In San Angelo, Texas, LDS missionaries have endured struggles trying to work in the city that has been ground zero for the legal war over the hundreds of children who were seized from the Fundamentalist LDS Church's compound. In the days after the raid, missionaries endured threats of violence and cruel taunts about polygamy. "We laugh it off. There's plenty of people that have questions and want to know if we're part of the FLDS," Elder Auro Sosi said in an interview with the Deseret News last month. "There's 50,000 other missionaries just like us throughout the world. I know they're probably going through the same thing." Elder Nicolas Librandi said the situation has opened some doors with people curious about the LDS Church Mormon church and the differences between the two faiths. "Some people make jokes like, 'I want to have 50 wives like you,"' he said. "We say, 'Go to Eldorado!"' The San Angelo LDS wards actually provided copies of the Book of Mormon to FLDS children who were being sheltered at the San Angelo Coliseum. At one point, the judge in the custody case inquired if local LDS officials would be willing to monitor the prayer services of FLDS members. Local LDS leaders politely declined the request. The LDS Church banned the practice of polygamy in the late 19th century and excommunicates any of its members who practice it.

Inside the Mormon Faith

Rating:	★★★
Category:	Other

I generally like Robert Millet and he is so softspoken that some of his statements that I find profound are hidden in his soft voice.

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/insidemormonfaith/index.shtml

Some of the things that I remember is that Heavenly Mother wasn't mentioned by Joseph Smith and the real first mention was by Eliza Snow. We preach to everyone because there isn't something that tells people that they have had a spiritual experience or a born-again experience. Also that we have something different to offer. I did not like his take on "God was once a man" in relation to the Father. He talks about a point where God wasn't God. I don't think that is correct. Jesus was a man and yet was divine. Why couldn't God be the same way. I don't think there was a time when God wasn't God.

Generally, a nice program, but not a profound program.

Dinesh D'Sousa

I stumbled upon this radio program by accident last week.

http://asxarchive.moodyradio.org/TalkingItOver/2008-06-07_Talking_It_Over__part_01.asx
http://asxarchive.moodyradio.org/TalkingItOver/2008-06-07_Talking_It_Over__part_02.asx

From TalkingItOver.org.

I like Mr. D'Sousa's books and I'm sure to check out this one. My comments are mainly about the host. I know this is from the Moody Institute but I didn't realize how much differently some people communicate. Mr. D came at apologetics as showing the superiority of the Christian position by use of logic,etc. The host seemed to come at it as superiority of position by mere superiority. I really got tired of every sentence ending in a bible verse.

You can't use the bible to show the superiority of position if the other party flat out doesn't acknowledge it as inherently superior. I don't know why but I was supremely frustrated at this program.

Death Star

Rating:	★★★★
Category:	Books
Genre:	Science Fiction & Fantasy
Author:	Micheal Reaves and Steve Perry

This book focuses on the months prior to the Death Star's role in the original Star Wars movie. Overall, I genuinely liked the book. It had many weavings of the story of the book to that of the movie, essentially getting into the minds of Darth Vader and Tarkin during the original movie. It also had a side arc about the man that actually pulled the trigger at Alderaan and a previous penal colony.

I would recommend it to fans of the movie. While I'm sure fan fiction probably covered some elements, at least this was given a blessing by Lucasfilm.

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Death-Michael-Reaves/dp/0345477421/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212978290&sr=1-1

Congrats to the Red Wings

While I'm not an uber-fan, I do enjoy watching them in the playoffs. It was a great run this year.

Something on the apostasy

While reading through this thread, http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=35899&st=60 I found some interesting links to Clementine criticism and a good article by the church on the apostacy.

http://www.hermann-detering.de/clem_engl.htm

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Clementine_literature

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=401605481ae6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1

Happy reading.