Tuesday, December 9, 2008

About Freakin' Time!

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1321300,rod-blagojevich-illinois-governor-custody-120908.article

http://www.suntimes.com/images/cds/MP3/blagojevich_criminal_complaint2.pdf

Gov. Blagojevich and his chief of staff John Harris were arrested at their homes this morning in a probe involving the governor’s quest to fill Sen. Barack Obama’s open Senate seat and focusing on wire fraud and bribery charges.

Gov. Blagojevich got the call at 6 a.m. It was the head of Chicago’s FBI office to tell him he was being arrested.

“Well, I woke him up,” Robert Grant said. “The first thing he asked was this a joke. He wanted to make sure this was an honest call.”

Grant said he told the governor two agents were standing outside his door, and asked him to open the door “so we can do this as quietly.”

“He was very cooperative,” Grant said, adding that the governor’s two young daughters were asleep but his wife Patti was awake.

The governor was led away in handcuffs, “as is usual protocol,” Grant said.

At a news conference hours later, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said the corruption charges against Blagojevich represent “a truly new low” and “would make Lincoln roll over in his grave.”

“This is a sad day for government,” he said at a news conference with federal prosecutors to discuss the arrest of Blagojevich. “Gov. Blagojevich has taken us to a truly new low."

Fitzgerald called Blagojevich's actions in the last several weeks as “a political corruption crime spree.”

The head of the FBI office in Chicago said if Illinois isn’t the most corrupt state in the United States, it’s a strong competitor.

The charges accuse Blagojevich of trying to benefit financially from his ability to appoint President-elect Barack Obama’s replacement in the U.S. Senate.

Fitzgerald says federal investigators bugged the Democrat’s campaign offices and placed a tap on his home phone. And Grant says even seasoned investigators were stunned by what they heard on those tapes.

Fitzgerald described the situation by saying: “We were in the middle of a corruption crime spree and we wanted to stop it.”

The complaint contends Blagojevich, a Democrat, threatened to withhold substantial state assistance to the Tribune Co. in connection with the sale of Wrigley to induce the firing of Chicago Tribune editorial board members critical of Blagojevich.

The governor is also accused of obtaining campaign contributions in exchange for official actions — in the past and recently in a push before a new state ethics law takes effect Jan. 1.

Blagojevich, 51, and Harris, 46, both of Chicago, are each charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and solicitation of bribery. They were charged in a two-count criminal complaint that was sworn out on Sunday and unsealed today following their arrests, which occurred without incident, the feds said.

A 76-page FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich was intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps during the last month conspiring to sell or trade Illinois’ U.S. Senate seat vacated by Obama for financial and other personal benefits for himself and his wife.

At various times, in exchange for the Senate appointment, Blagojevich allegedly discussed obtaining:

•              A substantial salary for himself at a either a non-profit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions.

•              Placing his wife on corporate boards where he speculated she might garner as much as $150,000 a year.

•              Promises of campaign funds — including cash up front.

•              A cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.

On Dec. 4, Blagojevich allegedly told an advisor that he might “get some (money) up front, maybe” from Senate Candidate 5, if he named Senate Candidate 5 to the Senate seat, to insure that Senate Candidate 5 kept a promise about raising money for Blagojevich if he ran for re-election.

In a recorded conversation on Oct. 31, Blagojevich claimed he was approached by an associate of Senate Candidate 5 as follows: “We were approached to ‘pay to play.’ That, you know, he’d raise 500 grand. An emissary came. Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him (Senate Candidate 5) a Senator.”

On Nov. 7, while talking on the phone about the Senate seat with Harris and an advisor, Blagojevich said he needed to consider his family and that he is “financially” hurting, the complaint states.

Harris allegedly said that they were considering what would help the “financial security” of the Blagojevich family and what will keep Blagojevich “politically viable.”

Blagojevich stated, “I want to make money,” adding later that he is interested in making $250,000 to $300,000 a year, the complaint alleges.

On Nov. 10, in a lengthy telephone call with numerous advisors that included discussion about Blagojevich obtaining a lucrative job with a union-affiliated organization — in exchange for appointing a particular Senate candidate whom he believed was favored by the President-elect — Blagojevich and others discussed various ways Blagojevich could “monetize” the relationships he has made as governor to make money after leaving that office, the complain alleges.

“The breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering,” U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said. “They allege that Blagojevich put a ‘for sale’ sign on the naming of a United States Senator; involved himself personally in pay-to-play schemes with the urgency of a salesman meeting his annual sales target; and corruptly used his office in an effort to trample editorial voices of criticism.

“The citizens of Illinois deserve public officials who act solely in the public’s interest, without putting a price tag on government appointments, contracts and decisions,” he added.

Robert Grant, in charge of the FBI office in Chicago, added: “Many, including myself, thought that the recent conviction of a former governor would usher in a new era of honesty and reform in Illinois politics. Clearly, the charges announced today reveal that the office of the Governor has become nothing more than a vehicle for self-enrichment, unrestricted by party affiliation and taking Illinois politics to a new low.”

Federal agents today also executed search warrants at the offices of Friends of Blagojevich at 4147 N. Ravenswood.

The feds said the charges focus on events since October when they obtained information that Blagojevich and “Fundraiser A,” who is chairman of Friends of Blagojevich, were accelerating Blagojevich’s allegedly corrupt fund-raising activities. The goal was to accumulate as much money as possible this year before a new state ethics law would severely curtail Blagojevich’s ability to raise money from individuals and entities that have existing contracts worth more than $50,000 with the state of Illinois.

Agents said they learned that Blagojevich was seeking approximately $2.5 million in campaign contributions by the end of the year, principally from or through individuals or entities — many of whom have received state contacts or appointments — identified on a list maintained by Friends of Blagojevich, which the FBI has obtained.

The complaint details several incidents involving efforts by Blagojevich to obtain campaign contributions in connection with his official actions as governor, including three in early October:

•             After an Oct. 6 meeting with Harris and Individuals A and B, during which Individual B sought state help with a business venture, Blagojevich told Individual A to approach Individual B about raising $100,000 for Friends of Blagojevich this year. Individual A said he later learned that Blagojevich reached out directly to Individual B to ask about holding a fund-raiser.

•             Also on Oct. 6, Blagojevich told Individual A that he expected Highway Contractor 1 to raise $500,000 in contributions and that he was willing to commit additional state money to a Tollway project — beyond $1.8 billion that Blagojevich announced on Oct.15 — but was waiting to see how much money the contractor raised for Friends of Blagojevich.

•             On Oct. 8, Blagojevich told Individual A that he wanted to obtain a $50,000 contribution from Hospital Executive 1, the chief executive officer of Children’s Memorial Hospital in Chicago, which had recently received a commitment of $8 million in state funds. When the contribution was not forthcoming, Blagojevich discussed with Deputy Governor A the feasibility of rescinding the funding.

On Oct. 21, the government obtained a court order authorizing the interception of conversations in both a personal office and a conference room used by Blagojevich at the offices of Friends of Blagojevich. The FBI began intercepting conversations in those rooms on the morning of Oct. 22.

A second court order was obtained last month allowing those interceptions to continue.

On Oct. 29, a court order was signed authorizing the interception of conversations on a hardline telephone used by Blagojevich at his home. That wiretap was extended for 30 days on Nov. 26, according to the affidavit.

Another alleged example of a pay-to-play scheme was captured in separate telephone conversations that Blagojevich had with Fundraiser A on November 13 and Lobbyist 1 on Dec. 3. Lobbyist 1 was reporting to Blagojevich about his efforts to collect a contribution from Contributor 1 and related that he “got in his face” to make it clear to Contributor 1 that a commitment to make a campaign contribution had to be done now, before there could be some skittishness over the timing of the contribution and Blagojevich signing a bill that would benefit Contributor 1.

Blagojevich commented to Lobbyist 1 “good” and “good job.” The bill in question, which is awaiting Blagojevich ’s signature, is believed to be legislation that directs a percentage of casino revenue to the horse racing industry.

Regarding the Senate seat, the charges allege that Blagojevich, Harris and others have engaged and are engaging in efforts to obtain personal gain, including financial gain, to benefit Blagojevich and his family through corruptly using Blagojevich’s sole authority to appoint a successor to the unexpired term of the President-elect’s former Senate seat, which he resigned effective Nov. 16.

The affidavit details numerous conversations about the Senate seat between Nov. 3 and Dec. 5. In these conversations, Blagojevich allegedly discussed the attributes of potential candidates, including their abilities to benefit the people of Illinois, and the financial and political benefits he and his wife could receive if he appointed various of the possible candidates.

Throughout the intercepted conversations, Blagojevich also allegedly spent significant time weighing the option of appointing himself to the open Senate seat and expressed a variety of reasons for doing so, according to the affidavit, including:

•              Frustration at being “stuck” as governor;

•              A belief that he will be able to obtain greater resources if he is indicted as a sitting Senator as opposed to a sitting governor;

•              A desire to remake his image in consideration of a possible run for President in 2016;

•              Avoiding impeachment by the Illinois legislature;

•              Making corporate contacts that would be of value to him after leaving public office;

•              Facilitating his wife’s employment as a lobbyist;

•              And generating speaking fees should he decide to leave public office.

In the earliest intercepted conversation about the Senate seat described in the affidavit, Blagojevich told Deputy Governor A on Nov. 3 that if he is not going to get anything of value for the open seat, then he will take it for himself: “If . . . they’re not going to offer anything of any value, then I might just take it.”

Later that day, speaking to Advisor A, Blagojevich allegedly said: “I’m going to keep this Senate option for me a real possibility, you know, and therefore I can drive a hard bargain.” He added later that the seat “is a [expletive] valuable thing, you just don’t give it away for nothing.”

Over the next couple of days — Election Day and the day after — Blagojevich was allegedly captured discussing with Deputy Governor A whether he could obtain a cabinet position, such as Secretary of Health and Human Services or the Department of Energy or various ambassadorships.

In a conversation with Harris on Nov. 4, Blagojevich compared his situation to that of a sports agent shopping a potential free agent to the highest bidder. The day after the election, Harris allegedly suggested to Blagojevich that the President-elect could make him the head of a private foundation.

Later on Nov. 5, Blagojevich said to Advisor A, “I’ve got this thing and it’s [expletive] golden, and, uh, uh, I’m just not giving it up for [expletive] nothing. I’m not gonna do it. And, and I can always use it. I can parachute me there,” the affidavit states.

Two days later, in a three-way call with Harris and Advisor B, a consultant in Washington, Blagojevich and the others allegedly discussed the prospect of a three-way deal for the Senate appointment involving an organization called “Change to Win,” which is affiliated with various unions including the Service Employees International Union (SEIU).

On Nov. 10, Blagojevich, his wife, Harris, Governor General Counsel, Advisor B and other Washington-based advisors participated at different times in a two-hour phone call in which they allegedly discussed, among other things, a deal involving the SEIU.

Harris allegedly said they could work out a deal with the union and the President-elect where SEIU could help the President-elect with Blagojevich’s appointment of Senate Candidate 1, while Blagojevich would obtain a position as the national director of the Change to Win campaign and SEIU would get something favorable from the President-elect in the future.

Also during that call, Blagojevich agreed it was unlikely that Obama would name him Secretary of Health and Human Services or give him an ambassadorship because of all of the negative publicity surrounding him, according to the complaint.

In a conversation with Harris on Nov. 11, the charges state, Blagojevich said he knew Obama wanted Senate Candidate 1 for the open seat but “they’re not willing to give me anything except appreciation. [Expletive] them.”

Earlier in that conversation, Blagojevich suggested starting a 501(c)(4) non-profit organization, which he could head and engage in political activity and lobbying. In that conversation with Harris and other discussions with him and others over the next couple of days, Blagojevich suggested by name several well-known, wealthy individuals who could be prevailed upon to seed such an organization with $10 million to $15 million, and suggesting that he could take the organization’s reins when he is no longer governor, according to the affidavit.

On Nov. 12, Blagojevich spoke with SEIU Official who was in Washington. This conversation occurred about a week after Blagojevich had met with SEIU Official to discuss the Senate seat, with the understanding that the union official was an emissary to discuss Senate Candidate 1's interest in the Senate seat.

During the Nov. 12 conversation, Blagojevich allegedly explained the non-profit organization idea to SEIU Official and said that it could help Senate Candidate 1. The union official agreed to “put that flag up and see where it goes,” although the official also had said he wasn’t certain if Senate Candidate 1 wanted the official to keep pushing her candidacy. Senate Candidate 1 eventually removed herself from consideration for the open seat.

Also on Nov. 12, in a conversation with Harris, the complaint affidavit states that Blagojevich said his decision about the open Senate seat will be based on three criteria in the following order of importance: “Our legal situation, our personal situation, my political situation. This decision, like every other one, needs to be based upon that. Legal. Personal. Political.”

Harris said: “Legal is the hardest one to satisfy.”

Blagojevich said that his legal problems could be solved by naming himself to the Senate seat.

As recently as Dec. 4, in separate conversations with Advisor B and Fundraiser A, Blagojevich said that he was “elevating” Senate Candidate 5 on the list of candidates because, among other reasons, if Blagojevich ran for re-election, Senate Candidate 5 would “raise money” for him.

Blagojevich said that he might be able to cut a deal with Senate Candidate 5 that provided Blagojevich with something “tangible up front.”

Noting that he was going to meet with Senate Candidate 5 in the next few days, Blagojevich told Fundraiser A to reach out to an intermediary (Individual D), from whom Blagojevich is attempting to obtain campaign contributions and who Blagojevich believes is close to Senate Candidate 5.

Blagojevich told Fundraiser A to tell Individual D that Senate Candidate 5 was a very realistic candidate but Blagojevich was getting a lot of pressure not to appoint Senate Candidate 5, according to the affidavit.

Blagojevich allegedly told Fundraiser A to tell Individual D that if Senate Candidate 5 is going to be chosen, “some of this stuff’s gotta start happening now . . . right now . . . and we gotta see it.”

Blagojevich continued, “You gotta be careful how you express that and assume everybody’s listening, the whole world is listening. You hear me?”

Blagojevich further directed Fundraiser A to talk to Individual D in person, not by phone, and to communicate the “urgency” of the situation.

Blagojevich spoke to Fundraiser A again the next day, Dec. 5, and discussed that day’s Chicago Tribune front page article stating that Blagojevich had recently been surreptitiously recorded as part of the ongoing criminal investigation.

Blagojevich instructed Fundraiser A to “undo your [Individual D] thing,” and Fundraiser A confirmed it would be undone, the complaint alleges.

Also on Dec. 5, Blagojevich and three others allegedly discussed whether to move money out of the Friends of Blagojevich campaign fund to avoid having the money frozen by federal authorities and also considered the possibility of prepaying the money to Blagojevich’s criminal defense attorney with an understanding that the attorney would donate the money back at a later time if it was not needed. They also discussed opening a new fund raising account named Citizens for Blagojevich with new contributions.

According to the affidavit, intercepted phone calls revealed that the Tribune Company, which owns the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Cubs, has explored the possibility of obtaining assistance from the Illinois Finance Authority relating to the Tribune Company’s efforts to sell the Cubs and the financing or sale of Wrigley Field.

In a Nov. 6 phone call, Harris explained to Blagojevich that the deal the Tribune Company was trying to get through the IFA was basically a tax mitigation scheme in which the IFA would own title to Wrigley Field and the Tribune would not have to pay capital gains tax, which Harris estimated would save the company approximately $100 million.

Intercepted calls allegedly show that Blagojevich directed Harris to inform the Tribune and an associate, identified as Tribune Financial Advisor, that state financial assistance would be withheld unless members of the Chicago Tribune’s editorial board were fired, primarily because Blagojevich viewed them as driving discussion of his possible impeachment.

In a Nov. 4 phone call, Blagojevich allegedly told Harris that he should say to Tribune Financial Advisor, the Cubs chairman and the Tribune owner, “our recommendation is fire all those [expletive] people, get ‘em the [expletive] out of there and get us some editorial support.”

On Nov. 6, the day of a Tribune editorial critical of Blagojevich , Harris told Blagojevich that he told Tribune Financial Advisor the previous day that things “look like they could move ahead fine but, you know, there is a risk that all of this is going to get derailed by your own editorial page.”

Harris also told Blagojevich that he was meeting with Tribune Financial Advisor on Nov. 10.

In a Nov. 11 intercepted call, Harris allegedly told Blagojevich that Tribune Financial Advisor talked to Tribune Owner and Tribune Owner “got the message and is very sensitive to the issue.”

Harris told Blagojevich that according to Tribune Financial Advisor, there would be “certain corporate reorganizations and budget cuts coming and, reading between the lines, he’s going after that section.”

Blagojevich allegedly responded: “Oh. That’s fantastic.”

Tuesday, November 25, 2008

How is this happening

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/25/borrow-spend-panic-repeat/

 

Nobody elected this bozo. How in the world is he spending our money like this? Why should I be on the hook for something no-one voted on?

Saturday, November 22, 2008

Make it stop!!

I just don't understand this. Nothing is too big to fail. Nothing. Not CITI, not GM. Not the U. S. Government. Everything that mankind does fails. Everything.

Why are we rewarding failure?

Friday, November 14, 2008

The Missouri Persecutions

Rating:★★★★
Category:Books
Genre: History
Author:B. H. Roberts
I'm reading a book right now called "The Missouri Persecutions" by B. H. Roberts. It is about the treatment the LDS had when they were HQ'd there in the 1830s. I actually took a break of a few months because it was quite disturbing, living in my now relative ease. Not a whole lot of people want to burn my house down and kill my children at the moment because I'm mormon. In it I found a quote by Parly P. Pratt about the time he served in prison with Joseph Smith.


Quote:
“In one of those tedious nights we had lain as if in sleep till the hour of midnight had passed, and our ears and hearts had been pained, while we had listened for hours to the obscene jests, the horrid oaths, the dreadful blasphemies and filthy language of our guards, Colonel Price at their head, as they recounted to each other their deeds of rapine, murder, robbery, etc., which they had committed among the “Mormons” while at Far West and vicinity. They even boasted of defiling by force wives, daughters, and virgins, and of shooting or dashing out the brains of men, women and children.

“I had listened till I became so disgusted, shocked, horrified, and so filled with the spirit of indignant justice that I could scarcely refrain from rising upon my feet and rebuking the guards; but had said nothing to Joseph, or any one else, although I lay next to him and knew he was awake. On a sudden he arose to his feet, and spoke in a voice of thunder, or as the roaring lion, uttering, as near as I can recollect, the following words:

‘SILENCE, ye fiends of the infernal pit. In the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke you, and command you to be still; I will not live another minute and hear such language. Cease such talk, or you or I die THIS INSTANT!’

“He ceased to speak. He stood erect in terrible majesty. Chained, and without a weapon; calm, unruffled and dignified as an angel, he looked upon the quailing guards, whose weapons were lowered or dropped to the ground; whose knees smote together, and who, shrinking into a corner, or crouching at his feet, begged his pardon, and remained quiet till a change of guards.

“I have seen the ministers of justice, clothed in magisterial robes, and criminals arraigned before them, while life was suspended on a breath, in the Courts of England; I have witnessed a Congress in solemn session to give laws to nations; I have tried to conceive of kings, of royal courts, of thrones and crowns; and of emperors assembled to decide the fate of kingdoms; but dignity and majesty have I seen but once, as it stood in chains, at midnight, in a dungeon in an obscure village of Missouri.”

For those who can't do text, there is a short video on it here.
Joseph Smith Rebukes Guards
I suggest you let it buffer quite a bit as the connection appears to be slow.

Thursday, November 13, 2008

More evidence government is broken.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202846_pf.html

What a bunch of clueless morons. They really have no idea what is going on. The fed or treasury secretary stating that he didn't want to do what the law told him to do, but do something else. He should be fired on the spot.

Bailout Lacks Oversight Despite Billions Pledged
Watchdog Panel Is Empty; Report Is Unfinished

By Amit R. Paley
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 13, 2008; A01

In the six weeks since lawmakers approved the Treasury's massive bailout of financial firms, the government has poured money into the country's largest banks, recruited smaller banks into the program and repeatedly widened its scope to cover yet other types of businesses, from insurers to consumer lenders.

Along the way, the Bush administration has committed $290 billion of the $700 billion rescue package.

Yet for all this activity, no formal action has been taken to fill the independent oversight posts established by Congress when it approved the bailout to prevent corruption and government waste. Nor has the first monitoring report required by lawmakers been completed, though the initial deadline has passed.

"It's a mess," said Eric M. Thorson, the Treasury Department's inspector general, who has been working to oversee the bailout program until the newly created position of special inspector general is filled. "I don't think anyone understands right now how we're going to do proper oversight of this thing."

In approving the rescue package, lawmakers trumpeted provisions in the legislation that established layers of independent scrutiny, including a special inspector general to be nominated by the White House and a congressional oversight panel to be named by lawmakers themselves.

Some lawmakers and their aides fear that political squabbling on Capitol Hill and bureaucratic logjams could delay their work for months. Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office, which also has some oversight responsibilities, is worried about the difficulty of hiring people who can understand the intensely complicated financial work involved.

The legislation grants the special inspector, who is expected to be the primary overseer of the program, a budget of $50 million. The measure calls for him to conduct audits and investigations of how the government spends money under the bailout program, including on equity investments in firms. In particular, he is to report about any assets acquired and their value, plus an explanation of why they were acquired and details on individuals or companies involved in the transactions.

The leading candidate for the post is Neil M. Barofsky, a federal prosecutor in New York, and his nomination could come as soon as this week, according to people familiar with the matter.

Barofsky, an assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, is the chief of the office's mortgage fraud group and the lead prosecutor in the $2.4 billion accounting-fraud case against former executives of the collapsed financial firm Refco. He was formerly a white-collar criminal defense attorney in New York.

It is unclear that Barofsky would be confirmed by the Senate, as required, anytime soon. One complicating factor is a battle between the Finance and Banking committees over which has jurisdiction over the confirmation process. Spokeswomen for both panels said the issue has not been resolved and may not be until after President Bush names his choice.

Nonetheless, the finance committee has scheduled a hearing for Monday afternoon in the event that a nominee is named.

Several congressional aides, however, said they did not understand how the Senate could possibly do all the proper vetting for such a critical appointment in just a few days. Thorson's confirmation process, for example, took nearly a year. But Treasury officials and Senate aides worry that if the nominee is not confirmed next week, when Congress is back in town for a lame-duck session, then the process might be delayed well into next year.

Some Republican lawmakers have said they are also concerned that Democrats may avoid acting on the nomination so that Barack Obama can choose his own special inspector general after he becomes president. But people familiar with the matter said Barofsky, the leading candidate for the position, would be palatable to the incoming administration because he supported Obama.

In the meantime, Thorson is trying to oversee the program in addition to his other responsibilities. Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. asked him to take on those duties. Thorson has a few dozen people working on the program, but none are doing so full time. He said there should be at least 100 people in the new special inspector general's office.

Lawmakers from both parties have criticized the White House for not moving more quickly to name an appointee.

"Considering how taxpayers' money around Washington isn't respected, a day shouldn't go by without having an inspector general checking on it," said Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking member on the Finance Committee.

Tony Fratto, deputy White House press secretary, declined to comment on the nominee or when he or she would be named but said there is adequate scrutiny of the bailout.

"No program in the history of the federal government has had more layers of oversight and reporting and transparency," he said.

For their part, lawmakers have yet to nominate the five-member Congressional Oversight Panel, though leaders of both parties said they hoped they would be named by the end of the month and start work by December. People familiar with the matter said possible nominees included current and former government and industry officials, though some had to recuse themselves because of conflicts of interest.

The panel's mandate is to look at the use of Paulson's authority and the impact of the program on the financial markets and mortgage crisis.

Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who chairs the House Financial Services Committee, said his concerns about oversight diminished after the Treasury program's focus shifted from purchases of financial firms' troubled assets to capital injections into companies. "The concern was they'd be buying assets and we wouldn't know the price," Frank said. The revised bailout program "doesn't have the conflicts of interest and the other things people were concerned about."

The delays in selecting both the special inspector general and the congressional oversight panel have prevented the release of a detailed oversight report required in the legislation. Under the law, the congressional panel was required to release a report 30 days after the bailout program began, a deadline that has passed. It is supposed to issue a more elaborate report on the financial regulatory process by Jan. 20, a deadline congressional aides said will be nearly impossible to make.

The special inspector general is supposed to release a report within 60 days of his confirmation. Though Thorson, the Treasury inspector general, is not required to prepare a report, he said he might feel obligated to issue one if the Senate does not confirm a special inspector by Monday.

The Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, is also required by the legislation to conduct oversight of the program. The agency's mission is to look at the overall performance of the initiative and its effect on the financial system.

The GAO has dedicated about 20 people to look at the bailout and has office space at the Treasury Department. Agency officials said they expect to issue a brief report on the program, as mandated by the legislation, within the next month.

The legislation also created a body called the Financial Stability Oversight Board, whose five members include Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke. But it has no staff of its own, and few expect that policymakers can conduct oversight of themselves. "It's sort of a joke in terms of oversight," a congressional aide said.

Staff writers Lori Montgomery and Dana Hedgpeth contributed to this report.

Saturday, November 8, 2008

Ramayana

Rating:★★
Category:Books
Genre: Religion & Spirituality
Author:Krishna Dharma
Book can be found at
http://www.amazon.com/Ramayana-Indias-Immortal-Adventure-Wisdom/dp/1887089063/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226172952&sr=1-3.

After many months of page at a time reading, I finally finished this book.
I'm still not sure how to take it. I mean, Rama seemed to be completely clueless in being the Supreme Being. Others recognized it, but he didn't.
The main thrust of the story is that Rama was to be the ruling king of the world, but was tricked out of his position and was in exile in the forest with his wife, Sita. Sita was kidnapped by a demon king and with the help of monkeys and other wildlife, Rama got her back. He didn't treate her all that well afterwords, if I recall.
The story kind of flowed but the hyperbole was more than I could really take. Nothing was just done, it was completed with the power and force of the Gods. During the final battle, it appeared that every single mountain peak on Lanka was thrown at the demons. Mountains were very heavily used in the narrative.

All in all, not sure I liked it. The Krishna Book is a bit more entertaining. I still have the Mahabarata from the same author to read. I'll see if it is any better.

Man, I wish Tom Clancy would write a new book.

Saturday, November 1, 2008

Order 66

Rating:
Category:Books
Genre: Science Fiction & Fantasy
Author:Traviss Karen
When I picked up Order 66, it took me about 10-20 pages before it sunk in that I had no idea what was going on. I had to read the previous novel, "True Colors" in order to make ANY sense out of the book. With that said, I'll continue.

I never have understood the fascination with Boba Fett. Other than a neat name, the character is about as interesting as a cement brick. I think this is the first indication in some Star Wars fans that they are brain damaged. Fett was a minor character in the first movies and died a silly death, even though he was brought back in the later books. Still, to very little interest to me. However, he comes back again, time after time, like a repeating burp.

I'm tired of Mandalorian words. Ms Traviss litters her books with them. Enough already! The ability to make up words does not mean you are a good author. It became old, real fast.

All in all, I would really enjoy not reading another of Ms Traviss' books again, but for some reason Lucas Books has her on retainer. She does not write interesting stories. Aside from the endless banter between the troopers, and realize that that is the only draw of the books, the stories are uninteresting. They give me little insight, other than the constant underlying theme that the troopers are mandalorian. Who cares.

Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Bailout bad, Bad, BAD idea

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/27/ahem-speaking-of-socialism/

It makes one ask where we went wrong. I'm not sure when we'll get back on track but the past 16 years or so have been very destructive to this country, IMO. I think it will continue regardless of who is president, as they are both horrible choices.

Monday, October 13, 2008

Glenn Beck

I've taken to listening to Glenn Beck in the morning on www.cities929.com. I listened to him and read his book and only lately figured out that he was a mormon. I later found this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USpeolBTKIo

as well as his thoughts on Pres. Hinkley's death at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCXYciIr3xs.

I enjoy listening to him. Not because he is LDS...as long as it doesn't get in his way. Laura Ingraham was enjoyable until she greeted every catholic in evermore irritating ways. As long as Glenn doesn't get in his own way, I'll probably listen to him often.

Massacre at Mountain Meadows

Rating:★★★★
Category:Books
Genre: History
Author:Ronald W. Walker, Richard E. Turley
http://www.amazon.com/Massacre-at-Mountain-Meadows/dp/B001E5NSE0/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1223946520&sr=1-1

This book was terrific. It was written by church historians that have access to texts that most other historians did not. It was a fairly even-handed approach, one that understood the religion, times and context.

It did absolve Brigham Young of any direct involvement. This was due mainly to the distances involved. BY simply was too far away to direct anyone. What was established was that BY did ask for the church members to let the emigrants go.

It didn't absolve the members of the church in relation to drumming up people to get ready for a war with the US. That certainly came into play. The poverty of the people in Southern Utah and the relative wealth of the train also was pronounced.

It really made me angry how members of the church treated each other. A brother gave a member of the train, whom he knew, some fruit and was beaten senseless by other members because of it.

The train was already on their way out of the state when they conspired to kill them all, except for the children. I couldn't read in one sitting the account of the killing. It was abhorant what they did. I never can understand what goes on in a person's head when murder becomes a viable solution.

Very good book. Highly recommended.

Thursday, October 2, 2008

Leatherheads

Rating:
Category:Movies
Genre: Comedy
Waited for this to come to video. It was a waste of time. Not funny and not interesting.

Saturday, September 20, 2008

700,000,000,000 Dollar Bailout.

I can't even express how HUGE of a mistake this is. Let people go broke. Let people lose their money. Stop using government as a crutch.

Bush 43 has been the worst president that the Republican Party has ever seen. To even contemplate this bailout should expell him from office. To allow the FED to go forward with this is inexcusable. Don't saddle my children with the greed of previous generations. Stop this madness.

 

Update:

The senate is going to vote on this, in violation of the constitution. This congress is making me ashamed. How dare they call themselves americans.

http://senateconservatives.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/bailouttext.pdf

 

Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Baptism for the dead

Unfortunately, I can't get this to copy to the clipboard, so you'll have to open the attachment.

 

 

Monday, August 4, 2008

Some vids of big trucks

Wanted to get these out there. Made with my cell phone, so quality is horrible. Also, you might need to download an update to Real player to view.
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Of God and gods

Rating:★★★★
Category:Books
Genre: Religion & Spirituality
Author:Ostler, Blake
While reading the latest installment of Blake Ostler’s “Exploring Mormon Thought” I was starting to become disappointed. Mainly, it was because he was treading ground that I have already explored. The first chapters deal with the Council of the Gods. While I know that among some it was a new concept, I have read quite a bit about the topic. As others have stated, most of the current scholarship is going down this route, (http://farms.byu.edu/publications/review/?vol=19&num=1&id=644)

What was of slightly more interest to me was his discussion on “Kingship Monotheism” and how that is the type of theism expressed in the OT and in the NT. Those are more convincing arguments, and a view that I already hold. Some of these are quite extensive and actually reference Ugaritic texts as well as DSS manuscripts (another set of writings I long to investigate). Since this is not anywhere near an exhaustive, or even anywhere close to a professional review, I’ll leave it to the reader to actually get into the text.

Then, after a month-long break, I decided to take the book up again. Really, I wasn’t nearly as excited about this book as the previous books. Now he started taking on the trinity. In the previous books he took on the ontological theories on the trinity and really slammed them in my opinion. This book seems to take on the identity questions about the trinity. I quote from the first paragraph on “The Latin Trinity, Logic, and Scripture”.

It is not uncommon to find traditional Christians who assert that Mormons must be excluded from the true Christian faith because of an erroneous ideal of the Trinity. However, irony abounds in such assertions. Rare indeed is the person in traditional camps who can elucidate the notion of the Trinity without falling into one of the many so-called heresies that lurk in the graveyard of Trinitarian theories. In fact, I have never seen a carefully spelled-out statement of the doctrine of the Trinity that did not commit either the heresy of modalism or of tritheism unless it simply propounded an unintelligible position or reveled in mystery. However, a person who asserts that Mormons must somehow get the doctrine of the Trinity right as a condition for salvation can hardly take refuge in unintelligibility or mystery, for a person must be able to understand what is asserted in a doctrine to be able to believe it and, even more importantly, to be mistaken about it in a way that merits exclusion from the body of the saved. If the ability to elucidate an intelligible doctrine of the Trinity that does not commit heresy is a condition for salvation, the number of saved will be very small indeed. Such a requirement would undoubtedly exclude all those poor souls who considered themselves Christians but just didn’t have the intellectual acumen to express an outright contradiction intelligibly. If it appears that I am trying to hide a thinly veiled contempt for the imposition of such a condition on Latter-day Saints, I am not trying to conceal anything; rather I am expressing my contempt forthrightly for the non-sense that it is.

The last several chapters dealt with theosis and the superiority of the LDS position, otherwise known as “Robust Deification”. He spent some time on the contradictions on some of the theologians take on the doctrine but overall he said that those who hold the creator/created paradigm cannot claim theosis as a valid doctrine, as we cannot approach God on his own terms. That also applies to the EOC take on sharing of the divine energies. If you ultimately believe that we are “other” in relation to God, we cannot share in what he has, on the same terms, as is spelled out in scripture.

The same problem exists for those that hold Creation Ex Nihilo. It demands that we are different than God and we can be obliterated by God at any time, therefore deification is not possible, because we don’t really share any of the nature of God when viewed in those terms. “What deification gives man, Ex Nihilo takes away.”

I did bypass some sections of the book, as they delved into weaknesses of other theories, most of which I was unfamiliar with. Overall, I enjoyed the book.

Wednesday, July 23, 2008

Sony Bravia via powersellernyc.com

Rating:★★★★
Category:Computers & Electronics
Product Type: Other
Manufacturer:  Sony
Just wanted to post something in case the search engines find it. I purchased this television from Powersellernyc.com. The site didn't send a confirmation email but a quick call remedied the situation. I received the tv 14 days later and it is one fine television. I recommend the seller but the website seemed to have issues. Tracking the order didn't work well either as Fedex was the shipper yet all I had was a confirmation number, not who was shipping it.

Friday, June 27, 2008

Joseph Smith was martyred on this date

On this date, June 27, 1844, Joseph Smith was killed in Carthage Jail, Carthage Illinois by members of a mob who stormed the jail.

I cannot give to words how much this man has given me. I understand how controvercial this imperfect, flawed human is, but he has let me know some of the greatest people, greatest doctrines and greatest vistas I have ever encountered or ever hope to encounter. He has opened up the atonement to me, and I am very, very grateful for that.

I remember looking up at the Christus statue at Temple Square in Salt Lake City thinking how much I have come to love the Savior. I remember two years ago standing on the campus of BYU so thankful that I could have spent some time there. It opened my eyes and my heart, the short time there. It convinced me to serve a mission, two of my most miserable years of my life, but it gave me a language, German, that I studied when I came back to BYU. In German class I met my future bride. I received my first job from a reference by LDS Employment Services. LDS Family Services employed my wife and facilitated the adoptions of my three children. Indirectly, or directly if you consider it, this man has given me the greatest joys of my life, and I cannot express enough how thankful I am to have known him, if only about reading about his life and actions.
 

Those Mormons are at it again

It looks like the LDS church, which I understand is not really what the church wants itself to be called, has put out some official requests that people stop using the term "Fundimentalist Mormons". What I found amusing is that the church has the legal rights to the name "Mormons".

Deseret News | LDS Church addresses FLDS confusion

While the church might have a beef with "Fundimentalist Mormons" or "LDS Church", I personally am really tired of the media usage of "The Church of the Latter-Day Saints". The real name is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints". It bears the name of the Savior and I wish that the media would get over it's dislike of the name or whatever it is that makes them uncomfortable with the real name.

Quote:
LDS Church addresses FLDS confusion

Leaders hope letters, videos will further clarify differences

By Carrie A. Moore
Deseret News
Published: June 27, 2008
As confusion continues worldwide about the connection between the Salt Lake-based LDS Church and the FLDS polygamist group in Texas, LDS officials ramped up their efforts Thursday to clarify that their members have nothing to do with plural marriage.
The frustration that LDS leaders are feeling over the confusion also was detailed in a letter to more than 80 major media outlets nationwide from the church's attorney, and in a public statement from one of its apostles — also an attorney — about the importance of protecting the church's identity.
The two documents were part of a package of videos and statements of clarification posted on the church's Web site at www.lds.org in the "newsroom" section.
The letter reminds editors and publishers that the LDS Church has obtained legal registration, trade and service marks for the term "Mormon," among other terms, and asks journalists to refrain from calling the FLDS polygamous group "fundamentalist Mormons."
But at least one religion scholar said trying to enforce such a distinction could be problematic.
"We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above," says the letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, who is identified as the church's "general counsel."
He asked that the letter be given to reporters and editors "and to your legal counsel," the letter said.
Distinguishing the 13 million-member Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from the few thousand members of the Fundamentalist LDS Church in both Texas and the Utah-Arizona border towns of Hildale and Colorado City has proven to be an ongoing challenge for the LDS Church, which has issued at least three other public statements distancing itself from the FLDS group in recent months.
The latest push for clarification comes after an LDS Church-commissioned survey of 1,000 U.S. adults last month, which showed 36 percent of those surveyed thought the FLDS polygamous group was part of the LDS Church, and 29 percent said they were not sure. Less than a third believe the two groups are not connected at all, and 30 percent believe polygamists belong to the LDS Church.
Of 15,000 news stories on the Texas FLDS group between the end of March and mid-June, the LDS Church said only 5 percent "accurately distinguished" the differences between the Texas group and Latter-day Saints.
The survey seeking to determine how widespread public confusion between Latter-day Saints and the FLDS Church shows, according to the LDS Church statement, that:
• More than a third of those surveyed (36 percent) erroneously thought that the Texas compound was part of the LDS Church.
• 6 percent said the two groups were partly related.
• 29 percent correctly said the two groups were not connected at all.
• 29 percent were not sure.
Still, asking media to refrain from using the term "Mormon fundamentalist" could be problematic for the church, according to Jan Shipps, professor emeritus of history and religious studies at Indiana University-Purdue University, who has long researched the LDS Church.
"There's a difference in tradition and in legal terms," she said. "They may have a legal claim to the word 'Mormon,' but the fact is that Mormonism is a tradition, and a legal claim cannot take away from other Mormon churches — of which there are many — calling themselves Mormon. It simply cannot do it."
Shipps points to an active group of "restoration churches" that broke away from the main body of the LDS Church in the 19th century, including The Church of Christ Temple Lot in Independence, Mo.; The Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerites); The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonites); the Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints; and the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, in addition to the Community of Christ (formerly the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) as groups that fall within the "Mormon" tradition.
"Mormonism is a new religious tradition, not just the LDS Church," she said. "There are lots of forms of Mormonism. The LDS Church does not own the name of the tradition. It owns the name of its church." The analogy is that no one church owns the label "Christian," she said, though many Christian churches have tried to define Latter-day Saints as non-Christians — something LDS leaders have rejected.
The battle over who has the right to be called by what term has long roots within the LDS faith, she said. "All through the 19th century, the LDS Church headquartered in Salt Lake City was arguing in the press with the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints headquartered in Independence, Mo.
"There were long articles in periodicals written by the prophet of the RLDS Church and by the prophet of the LDS Church arguing about who was the legitimate church to come out of the Mormon movement."
Shipps said she's sympathetic to the latest incarnation of that discussion. "The LDS Church is trying to protect itself — and I understand what they're dealing with, because it's terrible that people think this (polygamy) is what's going on in the Utah church, but on the other hand, when something is a tradition, it's just a tradition."
Other efforts by the LDS Church seeking to clarify its identity include several new video interviews on the church Web site, including former Brigham Young University and Houston Oilers quarterback Gifford Nielsen, a director of community theater, an orthopedic surgeon, a justice of the peace, Texas news anchor Tracy Kennick, and a young woman with aspirations for medical school.
All of those featured live in Texas, and the young people talk about growing up there as Latter-day Saints, as another way of distinguishing LDS members from the polygamous group in Eldorado.
Elder Quentin L. Cook, an LDS apostle, said in a statement on the Web site that the results of the church's survey confirm what church leaders and members in Texas and elsewhere are seeing with respect to the confusion.
"We'd much rather be talking about who we are than who we aren't," Elder Cook said. "While many news reporters have been careful to distinguish between our church and this small Texas group, a lot of confusion still remains."
"People have the right to worship as they choose, and we aren't interested in attacking someone else's beliefs," Elder Cook said. "At the same time, we have an obligation to define ourselves rather than be defined by events and incidents that have nothing to do with us. It's obvious we need to do more to help people understand the enormous differences that exist between our church, which is a global faith, and these small polygamous groups."
In San Angelo, Texas, LDS missionaries have endured struggles trying to work in the city that has been ground zero for the legal war over the hundreds of children who were seized from the Fundamentalist LDS Church's compound. In the days after the raid, missionaries endured threats of violence and cruel taunts about polygamy.
"We laugh it off. There's plenty of people that have questions and want to know if we're part of the FLDS," Elder Auro Sosi said in an interview with the Deseret News last month. "There's 50,000 other missionaries just like us throughout the world. I know they're probably going through the same thing."
Elder Nicolas Librandi said the situation has opened some doors with people curious about the LDS Church Mormon church and the differences between the two faiths.
"Some people make jokes like, 'I want to have 50 wives like you,"' he said. "We say, 'Go to Eldorado!"'
The San Angelo LDS wards actually provided copies of the Book of Mormon to FLDS children who were being sheltered at the San Angelo Coliseum. At one point, the judge in the custody case inquired if local LDS officials would be willing to monitor the prayer services of FLDS members. Local LDS leaders politely declined the request.
The LDS Church banned the practice of polygamy in the late 19th century and excommunicates any of its members who practice it.

Thursday, June 19, 2008

Inside the Mormon Faith

Rating:★★★
Category:Other
I generally like Robert Millet and he is so softspoken that some of his statements that I find profound are hidden in his soft voice.

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/insidemormonfaith/index.shtml

Some of the things that I remember is that Heavenly Mother wasn't mentioned by Joseph Smith and the real first mention was by Eliza Snow. We preach to everyone because there isn't something that tells people that they have had a spiritual experience or a born-again experience. Also that we have something different to offer. I did not like his take on "God was once a man" in relation to the Father. He talks about a point where God wasn't God. I don't think that is correct. Jesus was a man and yet was divine. Why couldn't God be the same way. I don't think there was a time when God wasn't God.

Generally, a nice program, but not a profound program.

Monday, June 16, 2008

Dinesh D'Sousa

I stumbled upon this radio program by accident last week.

http://asxarchive.moodyradio.org/TalkingItOver/2008-06-07_Talking_It_Over__part_01.asx
http://asxarchive.moodyradio.org/TalkingItOver/2008-06-07_Talking_It_Over__part_02.asx

From TalkingItOver.org.

I like Mr. D'Sousa's books and I'm sure to check out this one. My comments are mainly about the host. I know this is from the Moody Institute but I didn't realize how much differently some people communicate. Mr. D came at apologetics as showing the superiority of the Christian position by use of logic,etc. The host seemed to come at it as superiority of position by mere superiority. I really got tired of every sentence ending in a bible verse.

You can't use the bible to show the superiority of position if the other party flat out doesn't acknowledge it as inherently superior. I don't know why but I was supremely frustrated at this program.

Sunday, June 8, 2008

Death Star

Rating:★★★★
Category:Books
Genre: Science Fiction & Fantasy
Author:Micheal Reaves and Steve Perry
This book focuses on the months prior to the Death Star's role in the original Star Wars movie. Overall, I genuinely liked the book. It had many weavings of the story of the book to that of the movie, essentially getting into the minds of Darth Vader and Tarkin during the original movie. It also had a side arc about the man that actually pulled the trigger at Alderaan and a previous penal colony.

I would recommend it to fans of the movie. While I'm sure fan fiction probably covered some elements, at least this was given a blessing by Lucasfilm.

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Death-Michael-Reaves/dp/0345477421/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212978290&sr=1-1

Friday, June 6, 2008

Congrats to the Red Wings

While I'm not an uber-fan, I do enjoy watching them in the playoffs. It was a great run this year.

Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Questions Christians can't answer

One of the main reasons that I'm mormon is that I think that some questions are answered by the LDS theology that can't be answered in traditional theology.

Case it point:

http://www.christiansonline.cc/forum/reasoned-debates/2665-who-jesus.html

and

http://www.christiansonline.cc/forum/comparing-notes/3675-atonement.html

I view these as fundimental to christian belief, and they simply aren't addressed coherently. I admit that I have to think about things a bit more but that is one reason why I'm intrigued by Ostler.

Monday, April 14, 2008

A Return to Logic: Blake T Ostler among Mormon Theologians

Rating:★★★★
Category:Other
While I didn't really pay attention to the presentor, I really liked Blake's response. He touches Heavenly Mother. He stated that Joseph Smith didn't mention or teach Heavenly Mother and that Eliza Snow "made it up". Whether he believes it, he didn't say.

This was just a good talk. I highly recommend it.

http://sunstonemagazine.com/audio/SL04225.mp3

Saturday, April 12, 2008

Exploring Mormon Thought: The problems of Theism and the Love of God.

Rating:★★★★
Category:Books
Genre: Religion & Spirituality
Author:Blake Ostler
Exploring Mormon Thought: The Problems of Theism and the Love of God.

I wish I could have the patience to write all my feelings and thoughts about the book. Aside from the fact that much of this book went over my head, I think the series contains some of the most important essays and studies of mormon ideologies I have ever encountered. That isn’t to say that I necessarily agree with the author in all respects either.

The first book in the series took on the nature of God and showed how logically, the theology of “orthodox Christianity” is not supportable by scripture nor logic. This book takes on such things as the nature of sin, soteriology and grace. This book has some pretty strong chapter headings: “The Implausibility of Original Sin”, “Self-Deception and Justification by Faith” and “The Problem of Grace”. While I don’t pretend to understand all his arguments, it certainly has made me look at things differently.

My favorite chapters deal with original sin (“Guilt cannot be imputed.”) and the atonement (“Guilt cannot be imputed.”). I will only focus on a few of his arguments on the atonement and the simple refutation of traditional explanations.

Ransom Theory
This is based on being slaves to sin and in captivity to the Devil. Jesus paid the price to get us out of this situation. (1Cor 6:20 and Mark 10:45). “..it fell out of favor because it assumed that God had to resort to trickery to free sinners. Worse, it assumed that God could not simply overpower Satan any time he wanted to.” Pg 261

Satisfaction Theory
This is along the lines that God’s honor has been wronged and needs to be repaired.
“The demand to repair God’s honor seems to be a snobbish self-centeredness that reflects God’s concern for himself and total disregard for our interests and well-being…It assumes that one can amass superogatory moral merit so that one has more moral ‘cash’ than one needs for one’s self. However, moral virtue is not like a bank account that can be saved up and spent. And finally, the notion that God makes a demand to satisfy his honor by punishing the only person who fully honored him is contrary even to the feudal code of honor because it is dishonorable to punish an innocent person to obtain satisfaction.” Pg 263.

Moral Influence Theory
This is based on an error in satisfaction theory, that God can’t commune because of his wounded honor, when it is really our sin that is causing the problem. It is correct in as far as it goes but does not explain how Christ bears our sins nor why Christ’s suffering makes forgiveness possible. Pg 264.

Governmental Theory
LDS might know this as the laws of Justice and Mercy. This is more like a precursor to that theory. Laws are violated and Jesus satisfied the Law while showing mercy.

Penal Substitution Theory.
Developed primarily by John Calvin. God set up laws and he can’t forgive us because his laws must be obeyed. Ostler set up 5 main arguments against this position

1) The penal theory posits a conflict between Father and Son. A loving forgiving Son must persuade the Father to turn away his wrath.
2) The penal theory erroneously assumes that guilt, or righteousness, can be transferred. Innocents being punished for the guilty is not acceptable in any legal system.
3) The penal theory is unjust. This view assumes that the humans who deserve to be punished escape it while the only person in the history of the world who does not deserve punishment is punished in our place.
4) The penal theory limits God’s power to forgive. It fails to explain why we can forgive each other but somehow God is incapable of doing it himself.
5) The penal theory entails a legal fiction as the basis for our reconciliation. It entails that God in fact overlooks our sinfulness and instead regards us as righteous because Christ is—even though it is not true that we are in fact righteous.

He calls his theory of atonement as the Compassion Theory of Atonement. That sin is real in that it separates us from God, from developing a loving relationship with him. Christ’s atonement is His pain in forgiving us. His need or desire to reestablish that relationship and the pain he feels in doing that.

I’m not necessarily sold on this yet, but it is intriguing. I can’t even say that I even have the ability to defend it. I still think it is dangerous that he uses philosophy to defend his views, in that most LDS view that as the prime reason for the departure of early Christianity from the Gospel.

http://www.christiansonline.cc/forum/comparing-notes/3675-atonement.html

Wednesday, April 9, 2008

Just when you thought Christianity was right for you.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/885008,CST-NWS-stab09.article#

A Waukegan mother claimed her 6-year-old daughter attacked her with a butcher knife because the petite kindergartner was possessed by a demon, Lake County authorities said Tuesday.

Nelly Vazquez-Salazar insisted to investigators that she was defending herself when she fatally slashed and stabbed her 51-pound daughter, Evelyn, whom she had grown concerned about in recent months because the girl had started sleepwalking, authorities said. Bloody knife found

The 25-year-old single mother was charged Tuesday with first degree-murder in the death of her only child, who was found slain early Monday in the Waukegan apartment they shared.

The youngster's throat was slashed and she had been stabbed 10 other times, including three times in the face, Lake County prosecutors said. A religious picture lying on the floor next to the girl also had been punctured by a knife, authorities said in court as they detailed the slaying and ripped Vazquez-Salazar's claims of how it occurred.

"She [Vazquez-Salazar] claimed the little girl was possessed by a demon," Assistant State's Attorney Stephen Scheller said, describing the child differently.

"She was an intelligent, vibrant, beautiful little girl. She was, in fact, an angel," Scheller said.

Vazquez-Salazar wept softly throughout the bond hearing but didn't speak. Her bond was set at $5 million and she remained under a suicide watch late Tuesday in the Lake County Jail.

The bizarre slaying shook even veteran police officers and prosecutors.

"A killing like this affects the whole community," said Waukegan Police Chief William Biang. "You never want to see a vibrant, active 6-year-old taken like this."

The little girl was found slain about 4:40 a.m. Monday after Vazquez-Salazar went to a neighbor's apartment and told them she thought she had killed her daughter.

A bloody butcher knife was found next to the girl, as was a framed religious picture that included St. Joseph, Mary and Jesus Christ, Scheller said. The faces of all three figures had been stabbed, he said.

 

This after I watched a program on PBS about the Myan script and how the Catholic Priest had all the myans who could write put to death and every Myan text burned....wonderful. Considering I have adopted two children with this in their history....wonderful.

Thursday, April 3, 2008

An incredibly good article

How Can Someone Who Lives in Insane Luxury Be a Star in Today's World?

As I begin to write this, I "slug" it, as we writers say, which means I put a heading on top of the document to identify it. This heading is one line: FINAL, and it gives me a shiver to write it. I have been doing this column for so long that I cannot even recall when I started. I loved writing this column so much for so long I came to believe it would never end. It worked well for a long time, but gradually, my changing as a person and the world's change have overtaken it.

On a small scale, Morton's, while better than ever, no longer attracts as many stars as it used to. It still brings in the rich people in droves and definitely some stars. I saw Samuel L. Jackson there a few days ago, and we had a nice visit, and right before that, I saw and had a splendid talk with Warren Beatty in an elevator, in which we agreed that Splendor in the Grass was a super movie. But Morton's is not the star galaxy it once was, though it probably will be again.

Beyond that, a bigger change has happened. I no longer think Hollywood stars are terribly important. They are uniformly pleasant, friendly people, and they treat me better than I deserve to be treated. But a man or woman who makes a huge wage for memorizing lines and reciting them in front of a camera is no longer my idea of a shining star we should all look up to.

How can a man or woman who makes an eight-figure wage and lives in insane luxury really be a star in today's world, if by a "star" we mean someone bright and powerful and attractive as a role model? Real stars are not riding around in the backs of limousines or in Porsches or getting trained in yoga or Pilates and eating only raw fruit while they have Vietnamese girls do their nails.

They can be interesting, nice people, but they are not heroes to me any longer.

A real star is the soldier of the 4th Infantry Division who poked his head into a hole on a farm near Tikrit, Iraq. He could have been met by a bomb or a hail of AK-47 bullets. Instead, he faced an abject Saddam Hussein and the gratitude of all of the decent people of the world. A real star is the U.S. soldier who was sent to disarm a bomb next to a road north of Baghdad. He approached it, and the bomb went off and killed him. A real star, the kind who haunts my memory night and day, is the U.S. soldier in Baghdad who saw a little girl playing with a piece of unexploded ordnance on a street near where he was guarding a station. He pushed her aside and threw himself on it just as it exploded. He left a family desolate in California and a little girl alive in Baghdad.

The stars who deserve media attention are not the ones who have lavish weddings on TV but the ones who patrol the streets of Mosul even after two of their buddies were murdered and their bodies battered and stripped for the sin of trying to protect Iraqis from terrorists. We put couples with incomes of $100 million a year on the covers of our magazines. The noncoms and officers who barely scrape by on military pay but stand on guard in Afghanistan and Iraq and on ships and in submarines and near the Arctic Circle are anonymous as they live and die.

I am no longer comfortable being a part of the system that has such poor values, and I do not want to perpetuate those values by pretending that who is eating at Morton's is a big subject. There are plenty of other stars in the American firmament .... the policemen and women who go off on patrol in South Central and have no idea if they will return alive, The orderlies and paramedics who bring in people who have been in terrible accidents and prepare them for surgery, the teachers and nurses who throw their whole spirits into caring for autistic children, the kind men and women who work in hospices and in cancer wards. Think of each and every fireman who was running up the stairs at the World Trade Center as the towers began to collapse.

Now you have my idea of a real hero. We are not responsible for the operation of the universe, and what happens to us is not terribly important. God is real, not a fiction, and when we turn over our lives to Him, he takes far better care of us than we could ever do for ourselves. In a word, we make ourselves sane when we fire ourselves as the directors of the movie of our lives and turn the power over to Him. I came to realize that life lived to help others is the only one that matters. This is my highest and best use as a human.

I can put it another way. Years ago, I realized I could never be as great an actor as Olivier or as good a comic as Steve Martin .... or Martin Mull or Fred Willard -- or as good an economist as Samuelson or Friedman or as good a writer as Fitzgerald. Or even remotely close to any of them. But I could be a devoted father to my son, husband to my wife and, above all, a good son to the parents who had done so much for me. This came to be my main task in life. I did it moderately well with my son, pretty well with my wife and well indeed with my parents (with my sister's help). I cared for and paid attention to them in their declining years. I stayed with my father as he got sick, went into extremis and then into a coma and then entered immortality with my sister and me reading him the Psalms.

This was the only point at which my life touched the lives of the soldiers in Iraq or the firefighters in New York. I came to realize that life lived to help others is the only one that matters and that it is my duty, in return for the lavish life God has devolved upon me, to help others He has placed in my path. This is my highest and best use as a human.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008

What is Scientology

Rating:
Category:Books
Genre: Religion & Spirituality
Author:L. Ron Hubbard
Well, I finally read a few scientology books. One was Scientology, The Fundimentals of Thought. The other was the large tome called, What is Scientology. I wish I could offer some in-depth review but I found the fundimentals of the religion totally incomprehensible. Perhaps I am so twisted that my Thetans can't think properly, but I just can't buy it.

That isn't saying that I wouldn't mind investigating a bit more, but I don't want to fork over any $$.

http://www.xenu.net for more interesting readings.

A little bit of an update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07m-IvvpK2E

Monday, March 24, 2008

Scientology

I've been trying to cram some scientology under my belt. It is more curiosity than anything else. One of the forwards stated this. "The E-Meter by itself, does nothing. It is a religious artifact..." I found that kind of a bold statement. I wonder if that is from some of their lawsuits in the past.

I can say that I'm not that impressed so far. I found L. Ron Hubbard to be a fair to poor author and he seems to have carried that on to a religion.

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,972865,00.html

Thursday, March 20, 2008

Blake Ostler - A Response To Mormon Neo-Othdodoxy

Rating:★★★★
Category:Other
http://sunstonemagazine.com/audio/SL89065.mp3

Blake is the second speaker and most interesting of the three. The part I found most interesting is that I was given a concrete reason why LDS use the term "transgression" when referring to the fall of Adam. He also stated why he doesn't believe in Original Sin. First and foremost is that it wasn't a sin. In order to sin, you have to have a knowledge of Good and Evil, which was lacking and really the point of the myth. Adam didn't know Good or Evil, and hence, could not sin. I know that the BoM could be read that way but I never thought it in such simple terms before. He does spell out other reasons why "Original Sin" can't exist, and even in his latest book, does it exaustively. I still like that little snippet though.

Monday, March 10, 2008

Catholic Parish wants LDS missionaries charged.

All I can say is, "Jerks."

Deseret Morning News | Parish angered by 3 LDS missionaries

Quote:

Parish angered by 3 LDS missionaries

Associated Press

Published: March 10, 2008
SAN LUIS, Colo. — Members of the Sangre de Christo parish of the Roman Catholic Church voted Sunday to pursue criminal charges against three Mormon missionaries who allegedly vandalized a shrine and committed sacrilegious acts in the church.
Although the incidents occurred in 2006, they only came to the attention of the parish when they were seen on the Internet site "Photobucket."
Alonzo Payne, a parishioner and lawyer, said he was asking the Costilla County Sheriff to pursue charges on behalf of the parish.
Sheriff's Cpl. Scott Powell told the Pueblo Chieftain the men, who were not identified, could face up to six charges, including felonies for criminal mischief and conspiracy.
Robert Fotheringham, in charge of the LDS Church's missionary program in parts of four states, and whose region includes the San Luis Valley, declined to release names of the missionaries. He confirmed the three seen in the photos, which have been removed from the Internet, were Mormon missionaries. He said they would be disciplined, though he declined to go into detail.
"We're just mortified this has happened. This is not what we're about," he said.
The Internet photos showed the three vandalizing the Shrine of the Mexican Martyrs in 2006 and mocking the Roman Catholic faith.
One missionary was seen holding the severed head of a statue. The head was found and restored.
Another photo showed a missionary appearing to preach from the Book of Mormon inside the Chapel of All Saints. A third showed one missionary pretending to sacrifice another on the altar at the Shrine of the Mexican Martyrs.
Members of the parish built the shrine. No damage estimate was available.
"What they did was extremely imprudent, extremely uncharitable and inflammatory," the Rev. Pat Valdez told parishioners at a meeting Friday night. "You have worked hard, and this whole community has worked hard to build that shrine as an expression of our faith." Fotheringham, meanwhile, met with parishioners to deliver a written apology from one of the three missionaries, signed by an R. Thompson. "I realize that my companions and I have made a mockery of that which is most sacred to many of the residents of San Luis and the rest of the world. I should have known better because I have seen many of the same types of blasphemies made against my own church and I have been appalled," the statement said.

 

 

Some Followup:

LDS Church apologizes to Catholics

Missionaries may face legal, church sanctions

Deseret Morning News and Associated Press
Published: March 11, 2008
The LDS Church issued a strongly worded statement Monday apologizing to the Roman Catholic Church for the actions of some of its missionaries in Colorado.

"Leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were dismayed this weekend to learn of the insensitivity and disrespect shown to religious artifacts of the Sangre de Cristo Catholic Church in San Luis, Colorado, and that Latter-day Saint missionaries were evidently responsible during their missionary service in 2006," said Bruce Olsen, managing director of the church's public affairs department.

"Their actions do not represent the high standards of behavior for which our missionaries are known all over the world."

Photos that had been posted on the Internet showed three LDS missionaries mocking a Catholic shrine and holding the broken head of a statue of a saint there, a Catholic official said.

Costilla County Sheriff Gilbert Martinez said deputies on Monday were beginning to investigate whether the men vandalized the Shrine of the Mexican Martyrs at the Chapel of All Saints, which stands on a butte overlooking San Luis.

The photos show young men holding the broken head of a statue, preaching from the Book of Mormon at an altar and pretending to sacrifice one another.

The vandalism apparently occurred in 2006, though damage to the statue went unnoticed until last week, when a parish member saw the photos on the picture-sharing Internet site Photobucket. They have since been taken down.

Olsen said the LDS Church has initiated a "thorough investigation" of the incident and has arranged for a meeting with Catholic leaders to offer apologies.

"We are providing the names of those involved to law enforcement officials and will continue to cooperate fully with those investigating the incident as well as with officials of the Roman Catholic Church. Those missionaries who have since returned home will face disciplinary action from the church," the statement read. "The missionary who was still serving in Colorado has also been disciplined and his mission terminated."

"The community is sad; it feels they've been victimized," Sangre de Cristo Parish Council spokesman Alonzo Payne said Monday. The parish has nine churches and about 450 families across Costilla County.

The damaged statue seen in one of the photos depicts Manuel Morales, who was the 28-year-old president of Mexico's National League for the Defense of Religious Liberty when he was executed in 1926 for refusing to recognize laws he considered anti-religion. He was among more than two dozen Mexican saints canonized in 2000.

The broken head had gone unnoticed because it had been placed back on the statue. The parish council, based near the New Mexico border in San Luis, voted Sunday to ask for the investigation.

The sheriff said charges could include desecration of a venerated object, criminal trespass, defacing property and bias-motivated crime.

Payne would not rule out a lawsuit seeking the cost of replacing or repairing the statue. The Rev. Patrick Valdez, the parish pastor, referred questions to Payne.

Olsen called the missionaries' actions "inexcusable" and said respect for other faiths is a "cardinal tenet" of the LDS Church.

"The church has worked for many years side by side with leaders and members of other faiths, including the Roman Catholic Church, and has often helped them with construction or renovation of buildings for religious worship. We have also worked hand-in-hand with Catholic Charities in providing humanitarian assistance to alleviate suffering across the globe," he said.

"The church expresses its profound regret and sincere apologies to the members of the Roman Catholic faith, to the members of the Sangre de Cristo Catholic Church and the townspeople of San Luis, for this senseless act."

Olsen said church leaders would look for ways to repair the damage that has been caused to relationships with the community.

Photobucket released a statement saying that it had no record of the shrine photos but that its rules forbid content that is illegal, obscene or threatening.

Kirby: You're called by God, but still an idiot

Robert Kirby
Tribune columnist
Article Last Updated: 03/14/2008 09:35:40 PM MDT


Years ago, my roommates and I got into a water fight with a bunch of kids. The day was brain-damage hot. Getting soaked was a refreshing break from the drudgery of our work.
The fight started innocently enough. The kids knocked on the door of our apartment and squirted us. It became an immediate arms race: squirt guns, then cups, on to jugs, from there to hoses, and finally total annihilation.
Going for the big win, my roommates and I hauled a garbage can onto the roof filled with the most noxious stuff we could find: spoiled milk, syrup, laundry detergent, rotting vegetables, dead rat, moldy flour, etc.
It took three of us to lug it to the edge of the roof. To avoid being spotted from below, we guessed where the kids were and upended the garbage can.
We missed the kids and hit some lady walking her dog. The deluge of muck knocked her flat and almost drowned her dog.
A number of things were terribly wrong with this incident, not the least of which was that the poor woman didn't deserve it.
Also, my roommates and I were LDS missionaries, personal representatives of Jesus Christ. Nothing we had been taught indicated that the Savior endorsed knocking down old ladies with buckets of swill.
The woman was in no mood for an apology. When we tried to help, she shook us off and shrieked for everyone to come and see what the awful Mormons had done to her.
Half of the ensuing crowd was sympathetic to her plight, the other half found it hysterically funny. The laughter made her all the madder.
We prepared ourselves for a long stretch in a South American jail but the cops never came. We still had to live it down, though. For weeks, people in the town scolded or congratulated us for what we'd done.
I'd like to say this is the only untoward public stunt of my entire mission. It isn't.
During my mission we had elders thrown in jail for blithely taking pictures of military installations.
Some got arrested for saying things about the government they shouldn't have. One hit a nun in the head with a football. Another killed a family's chicken with a karate chop. A couple got shot when they ran an army roadblock in the dark.
So, it doesn't surprise me that three LDS missionaries are in trouble in Colorado now for a juvenile prank that violated a Catholic shrine. What surprises me is that it doesn't happen more often. We are, after all, talking about kids.
I was 19 once myself. I helped raise three 19-year-olds. I know that being 19 makes a person only slightly smarter than a hound dog. The human brain doesn't even stop developing until 25.
Going on a mission doesn't change any of that. You may be called by God, but you're still an idiot. The only difference is a huge increase in the responsibility, so you have to let it show as little as possible.
I'm not saying that the missionaries in Colorado shouldn't be in trouble, or that they shouldn't have to take their lumps. For people like me, that's actually the fastest way to become smarter.
I do think we should look on the bright side though. With 50,000-plus kids serving missions in some pretty scary places, it's a miracle that international incidents aren't daily occurrences.
rkirby@sltrib.com

Saturday, March 8, 2008

LDS depression, or What is bad journalism

When you see the above picture, what exactly are your thoughts? In the LDS context, this is meant to imply that being a member of the church causes depression. The story in question is to be found at http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4403731&page=1 and how I found out about it was at http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php?s=cdeffbb640a393d1701b5c484efe6b81&showtopic=33649.

Quote:
The still waters of the Great Salt Lake run deep -- and dark.

Take Wendy, a 40-year-old teacher and mother of three from Utah County. To all appearances, she led the perfect life. Just as she was expected to, she went from high school cheerleader to Mormon missionary to wife and mother.

"But life has a funny way of not being perfect," she said. "Three years into my marriage my husband was drinking, using drugs and stepping out on me. "

I don't see how there are dark waters in Salt Lake other than it implies that there is something to hide. I also don't see why it is implied that the church must somehow ensure the happiness of this person. Are they saying that because she was a missionary, she married a loser? Does the church encourage drinking, drug use and adultery?

"I knew I was depressed and needed help, but there is a stigma about depression in this area," said Wendy, who asked that ABCNEWS.com not use her last name. "People think it's a sign of weakness. It means you're not capable of being a good mother or wife or teacher."

Wendy's secret is Utah's secret. The postcard image of Utah is a state of gleaming cities, majestic mountains and persistently smiling people. But new research shows a very different picture of the state, a snapshot of suicide and widespread depression.

I think there are other contributing factors. First, if there is a stigma, it is not the church's making. Many of the Relief Society meetings have the women talking about how to cope with the pressures of the world, pressures that everyone has to deal with, regardless of religion. I don't know many women who chase after perfection. Most are trying to cope, just like my wife. BTW, my wife works for LDS Family Services. It is a function of the church and is available to every member, most of the time free of charge. I used it while attending school there because of a relationship I was in. I certainly didn't blame it on the church but because of some choices I made.

Also, Utah has a large teen population. I don't know if you were ever a teen, but that isn't a great time.

The LDS do not use alcohol. So the self-medication that is common in other parts of the country doesn't happen there. Would you want them to start boozing it up instead of going to a doctor?

At the end of the article we finally read this

"I don't think it's clear that there's a crisis in Utah," said Brent Scharman, a psychologist and the assistant commissioner of LDS Family Services, a church network that provides counseling. "You've got one camp that says there is more depression and another camp that says we just have more consumers." Scharman said studies on organized religion and depression found that religious people were generally happier than nonreligious people, and that held true for Mormons.

So, after all this, it isn't the church's fault. Mormons are happier.

"It always boils down to the issue of what influence the LDS lifestyle has on the depression phenomenon," he said. "Non-LDS and some LDS people say this is a kind of driven lifestyle and that we push too hard and smile too much. But studies show, and those living it out see, that religion is good support. It creates a positive network and helps people get through crises and deal with long-term problems.

"Are there people who feel 'I'm not living up to the LDS ideal,' or 'I'm not living up to my family's expectations'? Absolutely, there is no question. But having done counseling outside the LDS community, I saw people there, too, who were depressed because of perfectionism," he said. "I wouldn't say it is any worse here than in more diverse communities."

This article was horrible journalism.

For another response, go here. http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/onionmagazine_archive_116a_web.jpg